My name has finally come up for a rod from Per. The rod I ordered is a 804-2 df HB. Before I commit to this rod is there a better rod/taper I should get? I do 99% of my fishing on the Farmington River between Collinsville & Riverton. I fish a fly between 16 & 20 most of the season. I like a crisp dry fly action (Payne 98 is my fav, I also love quads) Once he gets my deposit I'll have the rod in 8 months!! Any opinions on his best rod/taper??
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Posts: 1925 06/15/2007 20:30 |
Seems as ideal as any of Brandins to fish Church Pool or the Boneyard through the season - and probably a good one for Housy olives and when the water is low in the Spring. Good luck with it.
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Posts: 199 06/16/2007 16:07 |
Congrats on making it to the top of the list!
For the rivers you fish, I think you might like Per's all around 805-3 df HB taper, one of his favorites. It is capable of what you referenced and more... Good luck with your rod. Pkwyangler... P.S. Maybe "Kaneman1" can chime in and give you his impressions of this rod on both the Farmington & Housy as he's a regular on these rivers with this rod. |
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Posts: 113 06/16/2007 23:14 |
Ray,
As PkwyAngler said Per's most noted for his 805-3 DF HB taper. The rod is a casting machine i used it quite often on the Farmington and Housey. I just used it the other day for the sulphers on the Farmington. I think that the rod you have on order is to specialized especially in the higher water during the Hendrickson hatch. You want a rod that can also punch through those windy spring days. Drop me a message in my inbox if you are interested in getting together to cast my Brandin. Kaneman1 |
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Posts: 267 06/17/2007 10:24 |
Kaneman, I cast the rod you own in Somerset, what an awesome rod!! If I decide on a 5wt that will be the rod I get. I'm kind of leaning towards a 4wt. I wanted a 7' quad hollowbuilt rod, however Brandin only makes a 7' 4wt rod in solid not hollowbuilt. Brandin is the one who reccomended the 804. I usually don't prefer an 8' rod but Brandin claims his 8' feels like a 7 or a 7 1/2. Even with that being said I'm leaning towards his 7 1/2' 4wt hollowbuilt quad. I'm also thinking of getting a cigar grip, I'm not a huge fan on a wells on cane rod below a 6wt.
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Posts: 609 06/18/2007 02:54 |
I've cast a number of Brandins and the one I like best in the 4 wt. category is the 8'3" hollow hex. It is super light, medium fast, and highly responsive with a fine tip. Throws a flat line with nary a bounce or wave in it. Cast very well short because of the fine tip and, though I very rarely have to cast long, will easily cast 60' and more if necessary. I don't know anything about the place you fish, but the rod will handle small to medium sized flies with ease. I use mine mainly on spring creeks, including the Henry's Fork, usually with flies #16-22 and tippets of 5x-7X. On the Henry's Fork fish of 16-20' are the norm and it handles them just fine as long as you remember to use the butt and avoid high sticking the rod.
I like the extra length for mending and other line maneuvers like lifting over weedbeds and other obstacles. Per is right, an 8' Brandin feels as light as shorter rods. I haven't cast the 8' 4 weight, however. I've cast many great rods from the famous old and current makers and for me the 8'3" 4 wt is the "WBR" - Worlds Best Rod. It's the best rod I have ever cast, with Per's 8'6" staggered ferrule tournament dry fly rod possibly being as good. If I were you, I'd tell Per what you're looking for and ask him which of the ones you're considering he thinks best. |
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Posts: 490 06/18/2007 13:30 |
Ray,
I would reconsider your choice of grip. The Brandin wells is fairly unique and the short time it takes to acclimate to it pays off in the long term. I find it a very pleasant grip to fish. Also, it is so distinctive - it signals your superb taste in fly rods to the conzignati even at 30 yds away. |
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Posts: 113 06/18/2007 14:58 |
Ray,
I agree with what jz2 is saying about the grip. I is very distinct the way Per makes it. I don't like to have a master rod builder make something different than he normally makes. So you may want to reconsider the cigar grip choice. Kaneman1 |
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Posts: 1925 06/18/2007 15:10 |
IIRC, its alot like the Reams Wells which is also very nice and Jim's distinctive grip - I like it alot on the 8'3", but still prefer cigar on most of my fishing rods.
If I went for the 7 1/2, I'd do cigar - perhaps even the 8 footer - but bigger than that, I'd go for the wells. |
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Posts: 2599 06/18/2007 15:25 Moderator |
I'm sure Per can do whatever you like, though I will second the opinion that the thumb-rest grip is extremely comfortable. There is a picture of his cigar grip on a 763-3 in his rod catalog on his site. I owned and regretfully sold one of his 703-2 HB Quads in my early cane life that had the cigar grip and it was also very comfortable to my hands. 4wts seem to be the typical dividing line. 3wts tend to be cigar, 4wts go both ways and 5 and up are typically with the thumb rest. I find it easier to think of it as a cigar with a very slight back flare and a thumb rest rather than a modified Wells, although that's what Per calls it. I'm sure Jim makes a cigar also--I think there is one on Rick's site--but his typical take on Wells is different from Per's. Jim's has a fatter middle and wider front and rear flares. Also comfortable, but noticeably different. If you can try the flare, you should. Of course, if you (ever) use a 3-point grip, the thumb rest would not be advisable.
Thanks,
Chris greenriver7043 (a t) yahoo (d o t) com "Have nothing in your homes that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." - William Morris |
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Posts: 283 06/19/2007 14:11 |
I would agree with Chris over all. I have a 7'6" HB #3 with the cigar, dual rings and a neat walnut trim cap. It's a nice rod and will lay out more than enough line for your needs.
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Posts: 673 06/21/2007 08:29 |
16 pmd and I are on the same page regarding Per's longer rods. I've owned and fished the 8' 6" and 8' 3" five weights and currently fish the 8' 3" four which is as fine a Western spring creek rod as I have ever owned.
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Ray |
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Posts: 267 06/22/2007 18:17 |
I spoke to Per today. I seems if I want anything other then the 804 df HB I originally ordered I would have to go back on the waiting list. He is cutting to build the 804's & that's the rod I had ordered. So I stayed with my first choice, as for the cigar grip, I don't cast with my thumb on top if the rod very often, he felt a 5 1/2" cigar would be fine on a 4wt, he say's it's a very common choice on the rod I'm getting. So I'll have it within 8 months!! I'll keep everyone posted. Thanks for all your input.
The man who coined the phrase "Money can't buy happiness", never bought himself a good fly rod!
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Posts: 2599 06/23/2007 12:50 Moderator |
Ray,
Every owner I've spoken to about Per's rods has been very happy with the performance of the rods and I'm sure yours will be no different. Having tried both grips, I'm sure you'll find the cigar grip quite comfortable. I'll be interested to hear your comments on your experience with this particular rod. If you'd like to speak offline, my email address is below. Thanks,
Chris greenriver7043 (a t) yahoo (d o t) com "Have nothing in your homes that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." - William Morris |
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Posts: 258 05/17/2008 20:57 |
It's here!!! My 804 HB DF arrived today. I can't wait to get it on the water!!
The man who coined the phrase "Money can't buy happiness", never bought himself a good fly rod!
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Photos, & a full report of its casting punch!
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